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I have a theory why women like men that treat them like crap....?

Tell me if you agree/disagree & why. Women like men that ignore them and step all over them because that's how they think they deserve to be treated. They all want "high quality" men- whether that means handsome, successful, rich, etc. And they believe if a man is really "high quality" enough he wouldn't treat her very well. (makes sense?) Whereas if a man treats her TOO nice- that means that he ISN'T a very worthy man is trying to make up for it! My experience: My first girlfriend (early 20s) I treated too nice. I waited patiently when she was over a half hour late to see mee, listened to all her problems, bought her expensive gifts, helped her when she was between apartments and needed a place to stay (she ended up leeching off me and staying for 3 months), etc. She dumped me by breaking all contact suddenly. Second gf (mid 20s) I criticized her when she was late or made any faults. If she was late to see me, I simply left and turned off my phone. I didn't call her back right away when I was busy. I had her make her own plans for her birthday and only paid my own share. In general I was quick to tell her when she was wrong and how I wanted her to be. She in turn became obsessed with me and told me she loved me. Note that both of these girls had fairly similar levels of physical attractiveness. So, in the end would you like a guy that is a bit too nice or a bit too mean? Obviously the perfect happy median would be best but that's honestly hard to balance, so picking between these two the too mean is a clear winner right?

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1. Actually only the girls with no self esteem like the ones that treat them like sh*t. I married a man that treats me like gold. And in return........I treat him like gold in return. You can be nice and assetive, still standing up for yourself and demanding respect. Nice should not mean being a doormat.
2. Women don't go after bad boys just because they are bad, but because they are men and they know what they want and they go after it, not like the soft 'Mr. Nice Guys' who do everything they THINK women want them to do, but secretly resent her for it, and have no backbone of their own.
3. I'll buy in to that theory. I actually had a woman break it off with me because I was,in her words,"Too perfect,so there must be something wrong with you". Excuse me? Too perfect? Gosh,all I did was treat her like a lady,take her out to nice places,took her kid with us after the second date,called when I said I would,sent flowers for no reason,asked her opinions and had,according to her,the best sex she'd had in her life. The guy she married beats her and the kid,treats them like crap and she stays for it all. Go figure.
4. I don't entirely agree with this. when a woman finds a guy that seems nice and turns out to be an ass and treat her really bad, he will often trick her into thinking no-one will love her like he 'does'. and that she would never find anyone else. so she then becomes scared to leave because he says it that much that she actually believes him. and women who leave nice men? they are just stupid, I don't know why they would leave a man who treats them so well.
5. I agree and disagree. 1. I agree that immature women and/or women that don't have very much experience dating men will allow a man to treat her like crap and become obsessed with trying to "change" him into the nice guy she would like him to be. She is often insecure and doesn't know that when one guy walks out of her life there will be another one waiting in line. On the flipside, again, a woman that doesn't have much experience dating men would think that a nice guy is a bore because she hasn't dated a complete a-hole that makes her hate her life and feel degraded. 2. I disagree because a mature woman who has had her fair share of relationships/dates with men would know that a nice guy that treats her right is what is important. Experiencing bad relationships and realizing that they cannot change a man will lead a woman to wanting a nice and respectful dude. Women want a guy who is manly...of course he has to have an opinion and can tell you when you're wrong in a respectful manner and knows how to choose his battles. We don't want a sissy mama's boy that kisses our feet and leads us to believe that we can do no wrong. We want an equal, not someone who's a cocky jerk and definitely not a sissy-boy.
6. I think it's a self esteem issue with the girl, which many girls have. I think it is brought on by society... my boyfriend has been both of these people to me... the nice one and the not so nice one... and when he was not so nice, yes I probably seemed to care more but it was because I was afraid to loose him.. right now it's the other way around. He's being really nice to me, and I am not so much... he's afraid to loose me...and now that I see how much he loves me I don't feel as bad to tell him when he's doing something I don't like or things he should change.... until the wheeeels turn....
7. I think you're right, Frankie. Women see a reasonable amount of arrogance, haughtiness, and disdainfulness as indicating a man with status and power. In other words, they can afford to be assholes because other people fear them. I mean, as far as I can tell, women are just as superficial and as ruthless about what they're interested in when it comes to the opposite sex. They just have psychological incentives not to be honest about it. On the other hand all women are different and like different things. I think a lot of women are attracted to men who basically behave like their fathers. So if their father was an arrogant, demanding, sociopathic, upper-management asshole who drove a BMW and never expressed too much love for anybody..... yeah, In my unpublished book "A WOMBAT guide to dating", I present the thesis that women will subject any man they see to a "hawtness at a glance" test. This test will typically fail 60% to 90% of all men based on basic appearance and body language alone. The test typically takes about 2-10 seconds to reach a conclusion. If at first glance you fail the hawtness test, the only way you will EVER gain a woman's interest after that point is by spending unreasonable amounts of time and attention on her. Even then she may still decide to dump you if someone more exciting to her becomes available. (She'll probably say something borderline retarded like "I felt an instant connection" or "I feel like I've been waiting my whole life" or "I'm sure he's my soulmate.") If you pass the fitness test, of course you can still get shot down immediately afterward by not being "smooth" enough. So basically, if you haven't been to her house by the third date, it's time to move to better prospects, she'll already doesn't really consider you a real candidate, but few women will turn down attention when offered.
8. doud i 100% agree,, because i have experienced that myself when you treat a girl like shit shell be all after you!! but that does not apply on all girls, for example; ive been talking to this girl and im like soo nice to her i always text her back right away (dont make her wait) i complement her every time i talk to her when she says "oh im not feeling good" ill be like why whats wrong! and show that i care alot for her!! idk i never was that nice to a girl, but i think this girl deserves to be treated nicely, cuz basically she is really nice to me too well not as much as i am to her !! so i do agree with you but there are exceptions !!